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This week we connected Gilles de Brock to Babs Bleeker and Babs to Gilles. They answered each others questions about guilty pleasures and deadlines.

What’s your earliest art related memory?

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Nice question! But I have a few answers, because my art related memories are quite numerous! 

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I remember when I was a 5-year-old, sitting in the back garden underneath a parasol (it was raining cats and dogs). My mom had given me a hammer, some wood and nails and I made several wooden stacks-object-thingies. I think this was the first time I experienced my ‘Hyper Focus’, while making work.

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Museum-wise my first memory is the Dali Museum in Spain.

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Also, when I was about 4 years old, my aunt and uncle were living in a quite big house, and they had some sort of sculpture on a pillar in the living room. I was always really fascinated by it. About 8 years ago, I realised it was  the most ultimate camp thing you can have in your household: David’s statue by Michelangelo on a white, high pillar.

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What’s your worst food guilty pleasure?

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I love everything with banana flavor.
Banana Sweets, Banana Milkshake, Banana Liqueur, Banana Ice Cream: you name it. I always feel bad afterwards, but if there’s something to choose with banana, I pick banana.

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If not this profession then what profession?

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I think as an artist you always have some side jobs, but if I could choose a profession I would love to be a teacher.

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Babs Bleeker ‘Sunrise Express, The Editions Nr.14′ (2021) Picture by Jasper Timmermans

If you have a deadline: describe to us your procrastination behavior (while working at your studio).

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Watching YouTube tutorials to learn skills I will most likely never need. This has only two outcomes, the first being that every once in a while, I’m confronted with a new problem when I’m building or designing something and I actually already know how to solve it and I get to pet myself on the back.

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But usually, it only makes me an annoying person when I see someone doing the thing from the tutorial and I can’t stop asking them questions about obscure details of the process that I’ve learned in depth in theory but have never seen in real life.

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What exhibition, piece of art, or performance would you love to experience again?

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I think the last time an art work made a lasting expression on me is when I saw a movie by Jordan Wolfson at Sadie Coles gallery in London.

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I really like his movies but the room was also filled with pink carpet and I remember how it made me realize I should start making carpets and don’t bother with the conceptual movies that I was trying to make at the time.

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It’s significant to me because making carpets gave me the confidence to start making ceramic tiles (that and at least a 100 hours of YouTube tutorials on how to build CNC machines).

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Is there something within your artistic practice you would immediately give out of hand?

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Everything if possible. Don’t get me wrong I really love my job but I love walking in the mountains and sitting in front of a mountain cabin at least 10 times more.

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Gilles de Brock ‘Black and white test composition'(2021) Picture by Abel Minnée


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